[tied] Re: Andere

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

> 17-03-2004 11:04, loreto bagio wrote:
>
>
> > Quite strange. How can it be explained in the light of Gk andr-,

man

> > or as it is used in the compound word androgyny 'male'?
>
> As Basque and(e)re means 'lady, madam', and apparently meant the

same

> thing already in Aquitanian, it's history has nothing to do with

the

> history of Greek ane:r (oblique stem andr- < *anr-), which comes

from

> PIE *h2ne:r 'man, male human being'.
>

Vennemann explicitly distinguishes between reflexes of PIE *h2ne:r-
and and Vasconic *andere-. But he's not adverse to claim loans from
Vasconic into Greek, eg salamander < *salam+*andra "water lady", cf
Basque ur-andra "water lady" ie "salamander".

Torsten