Re: [tied] Re: Eggs from birds and swift horses (was: the palatal s

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 31222
Date: 2004-02-24

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From: "elmeras2000" <jer@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:12 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Eggs from birds and swift horses (was: the palatal sham)


> I find the agreement very pleasant. And if you like metathesis so
much you can have it here, but then it's a different kind from the
one you are defending for /poll�-/.

Not _very_ different. *O > *o when it turns syllabic (i.e.
interconsonantally) but it's possible that *O > w before a vowel. Your
examples suggest that the quality of the laryngeal was relevant, though it's
hard to say why.

> I actually see very little
change, especially as I do not know exactly what the -O- sounded
like. I am also surprised to see that you throw around full phonemes
and apparently exclude phonetic changes of subphonemic status.

The _result_ looks like metathesis. The _mechanism_ may have consisted in
subtle subphonemic effects, but there came a time when those low-lewel
phonetic changes became phonemicised.

Piotr