Re: (Re: [tied] Re: Six, -ts- > -ks-) Portuguese -s^

From: Joao
Message: 31064
Date: 2004-02-14

It's 100% correct.
----- Original Message -----
From: Miguel Carrasquer
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: (Re: [tied] Re: Six, -ts- > -ks-) Portuguese -s^

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:25:24 -0300, Joao <josimo70@...> wrote:

>In Brazilian Portuguese the palatalization of -s (s>s^) occurs in many regions, mainly in Rio de Janeiro City, Northeastern Brazil, Northern Brazil. The Carioca spelling is usually explained as influence by the presence of the Portuguese Court after 1808. Rio de Janeiro State has the normal -s. In Carioca spelling the palatalization is very strong, sometimes palatalizing the vowel.
>
>note: R* is the uvular R (how should I write it?)
>
>dez "10" : Standard Portuguese /dEs/, Carioca /dEis^/

I take it "standard Portuguese" here means "standard Brazilian Portuguese".

>Roberto Carlos (name of a soccerplayer and a singer) : St.P. /R*obEr*tu Kar*lus/, Carioca /HobEhtu Kahlus^/
>esporte "sport" : St.P. /espOr*t^i/, Carioca /is^pOht^(i)/,/s^pOhc^(i)/
>feroz "fierce" : St.P. /ferOs/, Carioca /ferOis^/
>arroz "rice" : St.P. /ar*os/, Carioca /ahois^/
>Lopes (my surname), St.P. /lOpis/, Carioca /lOpis^/,/lOps^/

Std. Lisbon Portuguese (I think):
[dEs^], [RuBErtu karlus^], [&s^pOrt&], [f&rOs^], [a"ROs^], [lOp&s^]


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