From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 31004
Date: 2004-02-12
> Soryy please read :<alexandru_mg3@...>
> e:->a PIE *dhe:-w-a -> Dacian -dava
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
> wrote:Drobetis
> > Hello Abdullah,
> > You wrote :
> > "Usualy one will call his leader "Our Leader" not "Our
> (folks_name)
> > Leader)" is a argument more of others, like Harwey Mayer, that
> think
> > Romanians were not Dacians at all."
> >
> > I do not agree with this etymology for Decebalus. Here is my
> > opinion :
> >
> >
> > a) Identification of the Dacian roots :
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Decebalus seems to be a compound word.
> > The split in 2 words : "dece" + "balus" is very probable due to
> > others Dacian and Thracian toponyms that clearly indicates the
> > existance of -bala/-balo root in Dacian and also in Thracian.
> >
> > Dacian and Thracian words containing the root "bala/balo/bali" :
> > - Hertobalos - toponym on the Danube river
> > - Triballi - thracian tribe
> > - Dreibalis - antroponym found at Olbia
> > - Decebalus - antroponym
> >
> > P^arvan - Getica pg. 227 :
> > " Hotãrît thracice sînt apoi localitãþile de pe Dunãre,
> > [Hertobalos] (Ptolem, II 14, 3: cf. de o parte
> > [Herduskera] din pãrþile Pautaliei, iar de alta numele formate cu
> > balla, balo: Tomaschek, II 2, p. 85 cu 58, ºi I p. 87 ºi urm.,
> > poporul [triballi] "
> >
> > P^arvan - Getica pg. 243 : " Dreibalis "
> >
> >
> > b) Identification of the PIE roots :
> > -------------------------------------
> >
> > bhel-3 (Pokorny pag. 120-122) -> for Dacian : bal-os
> > meaning: To blow, swell; with derivatives referring to various
> > round objects and to the notion of tumescent masculinity
> > see more details at : http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE51.html
> >
> > PIE _____________________Dacian
> > bhel- -> (bh->b ;e:->a) -> bal-
> >
> >
> > deuk- (Pokorny pag. 220) -> for Dacian : dec-e
> > meaning : to lead
> > see more details : http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE91.html
> >
> > PIE _____________________Dacian
> > deuk- -> (eu -> e) -> dek-
> >
> >
> > c) Check the Dacian Rules:
> > ---------------------------
> > a:->e PIE *dhe:-w-a -> Dacian -dava
> > eu->e PIE *dhreu -> Dacian dru-,drub- : Drubetis ->
> >*skeud
> >
> > Question : Could somebody tell me if in the PIEs *dhreu or
> wea
> > have a diphtong ?
> > (as I supposed).
> > I ask this because in my opinion in Diurpaneus we don't have
> > diphtong (e-us )--
> >
> >
> > d) Check the Albanian Rules (I will do this until the first
> > contradiction)
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > eu -> e : *skeud -> hedh "throw"blor "Art
> > e: -> a *meh1t -> *mat -> mot "year"
> >
> >
> > e) "bal-" root common Albanian-Romanian root
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > As regarding "bala" root in Romanian and Albanian we have :
> > <<Rosseti ILR II pag. 108>>:
> > "balaur (ar. Balaura, n.pr. Capidan DR, II 810; megl. [prun~a]
> > b~al~au'r~a "mare" adj. Capidan, Megl.,III.s.v.) - s.m "dragon,
> > hydre; monstre" : alb. bollë "grosse Schlange", g.
> > bullar "Wasserschlange", s-cr. blavor, blavorak, blavur,
> > grosser Schlagen" (Baric, Albanorum. [...]) "
> >
> >
> > So in my opinion "Decebalus" means something similar with :
> > "The Frightful Ruler" / "The Sinewy Ruler" / "The Bold Ruler" /
> > "The Brave Ruler" / "The Great Ruler" / .
> >
> > (and the root is common to Dacian, Albanians and... Romanians).
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > marius alexandru