Re: The palatal sham :)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham"
<richard.wordingham@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>

wrote:

>
> > Hm. It follows from me getting frustrated when I propose

something

> > new and the response I get is a restatement of something that's
> basic
> > knowledge to most people that know anything about historical
> > lingustics. The message I'm getting is that whoever responds that
> way
> > see my proposal not as an attempt to propose something new and
> better
> > but as a failure on my part to understand basic textbook stuff.
> >
> > So much for that. I'd like to discuss the idea that supposed PIE
> > plain velars occur only in loans. So, fire away, list some

examples

> > of what you believe to be incontrovertible examples of plain

velars

> > and I'll check with Møller and Bomhard. I find them, you lose; I
> > don't find them, I lose. OK?
>
> What if they primarily occurred in loans into PIE itself?
>

(Psst. They didn't. I've been checking the results beforehand.)

Aloud: That will take care of the cases with /a/ in Western IE and
normal ablaut outside it.


Torsten