[tied] Re: Decebalus, help needed

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "altamix" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

> Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
> >> Any idea about any similar names with "*Vbalos" where one know

the

> >> meaning of this "balos"?
> >>
> >> Alex
> > ************
> > Maybe Decebalus means "The head of the Dacians/The leader of the
> > Dacians", through Alb. <ballë> 'head, forehead', related to Skt.
> > <bhala> 'id.', OPrus balto 'id.'. Old Alb. form should be

<bala:>,

> > derived later <ballë> an neuter plural, as Burebista "The beater

of

> > the warriors" from Alb. <bisht>, probably OAlb. <bist>,

derivative of

> > verb. <bie> 'to beat'. Same formation we found in Sl. <biti> and
> > <bic^>.
> >
> > Konushevci
>
> I was afraid to put the Alb word here. The meaning will make a

sense but

> it souns like a name give by foreigners to Decebalos and not a name
> given by his folk. Usualy one will call his leader "Our Leader"

not "Our

> (folks_name) Leader).
> Of course this is not excluded at all and it can be it indeed has

meant

> simply "The leader of the Dacians".
>
>
> About Burebista, there are so many variants of its name that

beside the

> first part which appears again to be a genitive (?) "bure"

from "buri"

> ( the Dacian "buri" not the Germanic "Buri").
> The last part is too weka for being analysed. I say "weak" because

of

> variants which we know:
> Boirebista, Burebista, Buruista.
>
> Alex

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About the first element of <Burebista>, I claim that Alb.
<burrë> 'man, warrior, ruler' (cf. <Burri i botës> or pl. <burrat e
botës> 'rulers of the world' , semantically comparable with
pers. 'gihangir'), again a neuter plural, was very much spreaded
even in Middle Age. For example, most known aristocratic Serbian
family bears the name <Burmazoviqi>, replacing /dh/ > /z/ as in many
place names, derived from Alb. <burr-a-madh> 'big ruler, warrior,
man'.
Your claim: "I was afraid to put the Alb word here. The meaning will
make a sense but it souns like a name give by foreigners to
Decebalos and not a name given by his folk. Usualy one will call his
leader "Our Leader" not "Our (folks_name) Leader)" is a argument
more of others, like Harwey Mayer, that think Romanians were not
Dacians at all.

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