The palatal sham :) (Re: [tied] Re: Albanian (1))

From: elmeras2000
Message: 30937
Date: 2004-02-10

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "P&G" <petegray@...> wrote:
> >the prefixed/infixed (-)o-.
>
> If infixed, it infixes in a different place from the -n(e)- infix,
namely
> before the R in CRC roots, instead of after it. We would also
need a way
> of deleting it in the dual & plural. This seems rather more
clumsy than
> seeing /e~o~zero/ as the phonetic result of phonetic patterns and
accent.

You are talking to me like I'm five years old. Yes, I can see where
the element is located. The present-forming nasal infix and
this "consonantal o infix" are located at opposite ends, as suffixes
and prefixes are. The nasal infix must be an old suffix that got
metathesized to come to stand before the final consonant of the
root, while this element must be an old prefix (as it still is under
special circumstances) that got metathesized to come to occupy the
place immediately before the root vowel. The root vowel itself is
deleted because of the accent on the added thematic vowel.

There is no ablaut rule to produce *mon-éye-ti and its subtypes. If
you believe there is, you formulate it.

You appear to have misunderstood something when you talk about the
dual and plural. The -o- of *monéyeti etc does not change in the
course of the inflection. Are you mixing in the -o-/zero of the
perfect? I tried to make it clear that that is a totally different
matter. Maybe I did not succeed, or was not believed.

Jens