Re: [tied] Romanian verbal paradigm (Re: Late Proto Albanian...)

From: altamix
Message: 30816
Date: 2004-02-07

m_iacomi wrote:

> Rom (pqpf ind.):
> -Vsem, -VseSi, -Vse, -Vse(rã)m, -Vse(rã)Ti, -Vse(rã)
> Lat (pqpf. subj.):
> -(i)ssem, -(i)sses, -(i)sset, -(i)sse:mus, -(i)ss:etis, -(i)ssent
> Skr (thematic sigmatic aorist):
> -(ai)s.am, -(ai)s.i:h, -(ai)s.i:t, -(ai)s.ma, -(ai)s.t.a, -(ai)s.uh
> Note that Romanian has reduced all Latin geminates, so -se- < -sse-
> looks by far a beter guess than Sanskrit paradigm.

Rom. reducced "all "geminates. Even these which are in Albanian as well.

>
>>> What other language mixes s-aorists with true perfects?
> [...]
>> How can you tell that the Romanian simple perfect derives from the
>> PIE perfect?
>
> He does not say that. As a matter of fact, Romanian simple perfect
> simply continues Latin perfect, as well as other Romances do.
>
> Regards,
> Marius Iacomi

Hmmm.. if I do not confound then we have as follow:

Latin conj. IV, scire, to know, perfect tense.
scivi, scivisti, scivit, scivimus, scivistis, sciverunt

Rom. conj. IV "Sti", to know, simple perfect
Stiui, StiuSi, Stiuse, Stiusem, StiuseTi, Stiuse
the root in both languages should be "sci-", "Sti-"
Latin paradigms for making the perfect here are:

sci -vi, -visti, -ivit, -ivimus, -iverunt
Sti -ui, -uSi , -u , -urãm , -urãti, -urã

Does it fit?

Alex