[tied] Re: Late Proto Albanian *3 /dz/ = Early Proto Romanian *3 /

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:20:57 +0000, Richard Wordingham
> <richard.wordingham@...> wrote:
>
> >--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...>

wrote:

> >> The whole paradigm can be derived directly from Latin:
> >>
> >> dí:cere > zíce(re)

> >> Only the past ptc. zis is not from Lat. di:ctum, but has the
> >analogical
> >> ending -s (*di:ssum).
> >
> >What about the simple perfect _zisei_? Can its stem be derived

from

> >Latin di:xi:?
>
> I didn't have the imperfect and perfect at hand.

The complete conjugation of Romanian verbs is available at
http://www.dictionare.com/english/dictionaries.htm .

> Anyway, according to the
> normal sound rules, di:xi:, if it weren't for the di > zi

development,

> would have given one of the Teletubbies.

That's what bothered me. The Romanian simple perfect, for this word

eu zisei
tu ziseºi
el/ea zise
noi ziserãm
voi ziserãþi
ei/ele ziserã

has been heavily remodelled. I understand the stress is on the /e/,
so we might have the development dí:xi: > *zípsi >, by analogy,
*zipséi > ziséi. If so, I would say the past participle also
derived from the simple perfect, though obviously not by any sound
law.

Richard.