From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 30550
Date: 2004-02-03
>Hello Miguel,Well, it isn't. Is rãu ("bad") the same word as râu ("river")?
> Now regarding your real arguments ONLY one reserve here:
> It is easy to count as 1 all the differences even they a smaller
>ones.
>
>
> Alb Rom
>
>1) /y/ y -- = 1
>
>1.5) Sorry but I cannot count this as 1(ONE): its only a variant
>of /&/ ã
> --> 2 -- /I/ â -- I count it = 0.5Close to which Romanian ones? Romanian doesn't have palatal stops.
>
>2) a) /k^/ q -- 4 = 0.5
> b) /g^/ gj -- = 0.5
> (there is not for nothing that they put 2 sounds in the same
>square (see urls)...because they act like pairs), also these 2 sounds
>even different are very closed to the romanian ones )
>3) /dz/ x -- = 1This one also comes in a pair. Why not 1/2?
>4) a) /T/ th -- = 0.5No. I counted them as differences because they are different.
> b) /D/ dh -- = 0.5 (again we have pairs here)
>
>5) /n^/ nj -- = 1
>
>6) /l~/ ll -- = 0.5
>
>7) /r:/ rr -- = 0.5
>
>Note on 6) and 7) : I wouldn't insisted so much with rr and ll
>differences regarding r and l. You counted them as 1 only to increase
>the differences with Albanians
>----------------------------------------------------------------------/E/ and /O/ are in effect just variants of /e/ and /o/ in standard Italian,
> Total : 6.5
>
>
>And I count 9 differences between Romanian and Italian:
>
>Ita Rom
>1) a) -- /&/ ã = 0.5
> b) -- /I/ â = 0.5
>2) /E/ è -- = 1
>3) /O/ ò -- = 1
>4) /dz/ z -- = 1Comes in a pair.
>5) -- /z^/ j = 1Comes in a pair.
>6) -- /h/ = 1You counted Albanian /l/ /l~/ vs. Romanian /l/ as 1/2. Why is Italian /l/
>7) /n^/ gn -- = 1
>8) /l^/ gl -- = 1
>--------------------------------------Only in your fantasies.
> Total : 8.0
>
>
>Even taken your approach , the Romanian is closer related with
>Albanian than Italian is.