From: Richard Wordingham
Message: 30532
Date: 2004-02-02
> 1. The numbers of what you named "albanian loans in Romanian" ,and
> what I named "common inherited words in Albanian and Romanian" isthe
> between 80 - 100. An important number of them are located before
> period of Slavic Loans in Romanian or in Albanian.<Snip>
> 2. If you see the number of loans between Albanian and Romanianwe
> DON'T HAVE AT ALL AN IMPORTANT LIST (and to say that some of themare
> lost is not enough). We have in Romanian about 5000 Slavic Words(50
> times more) , about 300-400 Hungarian words (about 3-4 timesmore),
> about 400-500 of Turks words (4-5 times more) etc...years).
> So the percentage of "common words" that we share with the
> Albanian are at a huge distant IN MINUS regarding other loans in
> Romanian.
> This is a clear evidence that the contact of the 2 languages
> wasn't as long as the contact that we have with the Slavic peoples
> (1400 years), with Hungarians (1000 years) or with Turks (600
> Also part of this contact easily arrive in the Balkan Latin times,named
> with another important part during the first wave of Slavic loans.
> 3. Such a small number of "common words" (or "loans" as you
> them) CANNOT JUSTIFY AT ALL, BY USING ONLY THE VICINITY ARGUMENT,THE
> GREAT SIMILARITIES that we saw in the 2 Phonetical Systems :Albanian
> and Romanian. (and I spoke about similarities IN A CONTEXT wherewe
> have ONLY 100 common words)This small number would appear to suggest that Romanian and Albanian
> As you saw the similarities between the 2 phonetics systemsto
> could beat also the Italian that is the closest Romance Language
> Romanian. By contrary the similarities with Slavic languages,than
> Hungarian or Turkish (despite the huge greater number of loanwords
> that we share with these neighbor languages) are less important
> the similarities that we have with Albanian.How does the phonological system of Bulgarian compare?
> This is the STRONGEST ARGUMENT FOR A GENETIC LINK (a common
> ancient Balkan Language) and NOT FOR THE VICINITY (LOANS) THEORY.