Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
> 02-02-04 21:40, alex wrote:
>
>> The Hungarian and Slavic (North and West-Slavic) examples won't
>> point in that direction with respect to Romanian. And the big thing
>> here is , Albanian _is_ not a neighbour of Romanian.
>> At least they have not been neighbours for more as 1500 years after
>> some sources and more as 2000 years after other sources.
>
> First, you overrate the similarity (and its importance). The argument
> that the Romanian consonant inventory is a subset of the Albanian
> system proves nothing: the same is true of English!
Ooo... no non no.. not from you Piotr.-)
There are just similarity which does not proves anything but let place for
posibilities. Not the phonetic system alone make any thing here. About the
relation of Alb. and Rom. phoneticaly , morphologicaly ans syntactycaly is a
bounch of things to say, but one will reach this point as well once.
> Secondly, it
> isn't true that Romanian and Albanian have been isolated from each
> other for so long (1500 years -- the other number is simply absurd)
Stop- There is nothing absurd here. The most accepted theory is that the
Rom. block was broken by slavs, thus the Aromanians should have been
separated by DacoRomanians in the VI century. We have 2004, if this
statement is true, from the Rom. split until now are already 1500 years. On
this basis we are forced to accept more as 1500 years as being the period of
time where BecomingAlbanians have been neighbours with BecomingRomanians.
The another posiblity for the Rom. split is fixed in the X century and that
will mean 1000 years from the split.
> unless you identify Romanian with Dacoromanian and forget how
> different the ethnic geography of the Balkans was in the Middle Ages.
> There are large Aromanian communities in Albania even today, so
> Albanian and Balkan Romance are still neighbours!
>
> Piotr
You dissapoint me. I guess you do not mind it seriously that the Romanians
which are living in Albanian will transmit telepatic to DacoRomanians the
way how to make their phonetic system for being similar with the one of
Albanians.
If you use "neighbour" just because in Albanian are living Romanians, you
have to think too that even in Romania are some Albanian living there. And
Germans as well. Thus , Romanians are neighbour with Germans:-))) I
appreciate the joke, but let the joke be a joke and not anything else.
About the Middle Ages, I am afraid I know enough for telling that as far as
the historical records tell us, there is nothing which can say the
BecomingRomanians have been neighbours with BecomingAlbanians. Nothing.
Since one speaks about historical testimonies, there are some which speaks
about a such kind of geographical neighbourhood. But there is no word about
Romanians or Albanians. Just about Illyrians and Thracians. Since Albanians
are not Illyrians in your mind and Romanians are not Thracians, then the
historical records do not tell us anything about any posible neighbourhood
of these people, thus they never have been neighbour and their phonetic
system & common _only_ shared lexica is just a coincidental issue. So much
about 1+1=2
Alex