[tied] Re: Albanian, Romanian & Italian phonologic systems

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 30494
Date: 2004-02-02

Hello Miguel,
> Come to think of it, Spanish has /r/ and /rr/. It has two lateral
> phonemes, and it has /T/ and /D/ too, like Albanian. Can the TRUTH
BE that
> Spanish Phonetic System is much closer to Albanian Phonetic
System??? This
> GREAT similarity could only be explained by a GENETIC LINK!

How many sounds have the 2 phonetic systems above ?
Less than 4? Or maybe more...
Usually when somebody want to count a DISTANCE between 2 set of
elements, he counts ALL the differences between the 2 sets ....or
maybe there, you have different rules, for this?

Are the 2 phonetics systems Albanian and Spanish composed ONLY by
/r/ and /rr/ and /T/ and /D/ ? As I know they haven't. Did you know
otherwise?

If not, please count ALL the differences between Spanish and
Albanian.
(if you REALLY want to do it) and post here the results....

I keep secret the final result (I hope that you can WELL count it
too this time) BUT BASED ON IT , I can tell you a simple
thing :...the Spanish has nothing to do with Albanian or with
Romanian.

As regarding you joke :
"This GREAT similarity could only be explained by a GENETIC
LINK!"

I want to remember you that a joke is good when all its parts are
true.

There is NO SIMILARITY here, sorry to say this....

But you can still retry to recount the differences....between
Albanian and Spanish...and of course, based on a good result, you can
retry to make the joke at the end, too...


Urls :
http://classweb.gmu.edu/accent/nl-ipa/spanishipa.html
http://classweb.gmu.edu/accent/nl-ipa/albanianipa.html


Best Regards,
marius alexandru




--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 15:38:00 +0000, m_iacomi <m_iacomi@...> wrote:
>
> > On another hand, one should note that Albanian /r/ is not at all
> >pronounced like in Romanian & Italian but more like in English
> >(say, in "frame" or "right", for not making it post-vocalic...).
>
> The essential point is that Albanian has two rhotic phonemes (r and
rr),
> Romanian an Italian only one (Italian has geminated /rr/, but we're
not
> counting Italian geminates). That I had already counted.
>
> Come to think of it, Spanish has /r/ and /rr/. It has two lateral
> phonemes, and it has /T/ and /D/ too, like Albanian. Can the TRUTH
BE that
> Spanish Phonetic System is much closer to Albanian Phonetic
System??? This
> GREAT similarity could only be explained by a GENETIC LINK!
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...