Re: The palatal sham :) (Re: [tied] Re: Albanian (1))

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From: "Miguel Carrasquer" <mcv@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: The palatal sham :) (Re: [tied] Re: Albanian (1))


> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:46:32 +0000, elmeras2000 <jer@...> wrote:
>
> >On the basis of these two Greek examples with /h-/ and evidence for
> >lengthening the Greek dichotomy /h-/ : /z-/ is projected back into
> >PIE as *Hy- : *y- respectively by the "Vienna school".
>
> But *y- gives h- in the relative pronoun <hos> etc < *yos, which is highly
> unlikely to be *h1yos, if we apply the rule of tumb that pronominal stems
> only contain a single consonant.

I think it was originally Sapir which sugested a long time ago that PIE *y-
> Greek z- and *Hy- > h-. I think that ad hoc the opposite is more
realistic. We know that *gy and *dy yield Greek -z- so it wouldn't be
impossible that *Hy- also would give z-. Some of the examples that have been
mentioned might prove that but this is only a possibility.

Mate