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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "P&G" <petegray@...> wrote:
> > H1y- > Gk. /h-/
> > y and H2y > ?
> > H3y- > Gk. z-
> >the strong voiced laryngeal H3
>
> Interesting - and if you have further examples easily at hand, I'd
be glad
> to see them. Otherwise I'll go trolling myself. This does seem
a helpful
> insight.
The root yudh- 'fight' forms amitra:-yúdh- 'figting foes' and Avest.
aspa:iiaoDa- 'horse-fighter', which is matched by the elaborate Gk.
derivative hysmí:ne: 'battle'. That is another example like hí:e:mi,
hêka.
On the basis of these two Greek examples with /h-/ and evidence for
lengthening the Greek dichotomy /h-/ : /z-/ is projected back into
PIE as *Hy- : *y- respectively by the "Vienna school". It was
Peters' initial guess, and it is sort of canonicized by Mayrhofer,
EWAia II, 406 (under yas- 'sieden'), on the basis of an "unpubl.
Vortrag" von Jochem Schindler.
The lengthening in a:yunak is not even mentioned under yoj- in
Mayrhofer's dictionary. The lengthening seen in RV á:yavasa-
'without pasture' is separated from yava- 'Getreide, barley' and
Gk. zeiaí. The clarity arrived at in this way strikes me as less
than fully objective.
There is quite a lot of evidence for the voicedness of /H3/ now,
only not very many know about it. The analysis of the variants of
the "Hoffmann suffix" *-H3en(H2)- delivers a series of new examples,
as soon as Birgit Olsen's papers on it appear. There's a congress
report from a Copenhagen symposium on IE derivation edited by
herself just about to appear, and there is an analysis of relevant
Avestan forms in a festschrift which may or may not have appeared
already (I guess I'd better not mention the name of the receiver).
Jens