The palatal sham :) (Re: [tied] Re: Albanian (1))

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham"
<richard.wordingham@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Mate Kapovic" <mkapovic@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Miguel Carrasquer" <mcv@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: The palatal sham :) (Re: [tied] Re: Albanian (1))
> >
> >
> > > If I limit myself to words starting with *ka- in Pokorny, I see
> nothing
> > > expressive, young, not widely spread or loaned about *kaiko-
> "blind",
> > > *kailo- "whole", *kal(no) "hard (skin)", *kamp- "bend", *kan-
> "sing",
> > > *kand- "white", *kantHo- "edge", *kap- "take", *kapro "male
> animal", *kar-
> > > "chide", *kar&- "praise", *kars- "scratch", *kat- "plait,
> chain", *kaul-
> > > "hollow". And that's only scratching the surface.
> >
>
> kaiko: Italic, Celtic, Germanic, Greek, Baltic, Indic
> kailo: Celtic, Germanic, Baltic, Slavic + Semitic (PIE *kW-yl- <

*kW-yl-))

> kal(no): Italic, Celtic, Slavic, Albanian, Indic + (if = 'contain')

Semitic (PIE *kW-l- < *kW-l-), (if = 'bald') Semitic (PIE *k-lH- < *g-
l-H-)

> kamp: Italic, Germanic, Greek, Baltic, Slavic, Indic
> kan: Italic, Celtic, Germanic, Greek, Slavic + Semitic (PIE *k-n- <

*g-n- or *3-n-)

> kand: Italic, Celtic, Greek, Indic (*skand-) + Semitic (PIE *k-nd- <

k-m-t- or * X-m-t-)

> kantHo: Italic, Celtic, Slavic, Greek
> kap: Italic, Germanic, Greek, Baltic, Albanian, Indic + Semitic

(PIE *ka:p- < * k-H-b-)

> kapro: Italic, Celtic, Germanic, Greek
> kar: Italic, Celtic, Germanic, Baltic, Slavic, Tocharian (?)
> kar&: Germanic, Greek, Baltic, Indic + Semitic (PIE *kW-r- < *gW-r-)
> kars: Italic, Germanic, Baltic, Slavic, Indic + Semitic (PIE *k-r-

< *g-r-)

> kat: Italic, Celtic, Germanic, Slavic
> kaul: Italic, Celtic, Germanic, Baltic, Greek + Semitic (*k-w-)
>

I checked with Møller. It seems he has Semitic correspondences for
most of them; I added his proposals for PIE roots and his proposed
Pre-IE-Semitic roots. Since he designs his own pre-stage for both
languages he has much latitude, since he can introduce pre-phonemes
ad libitum. Still I find it strange that he has so many of these
roots on his lists, given that he doesn't seem to have any particular
interest in /ka/-containing roots.

Torsten