Re: [tied] Re: *Wrughyo-

At 3:10:35 AM on Friday, January 30, 2004, Marco Moretti
wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "wtsdv" <liberty@...>
> wrote:

>> Are I.E. *wrughyo- 'rye', Pahlavi brinj, Greek oryzon,
>> and Sanskrit vri:hi- 'rice' connected in any way?

> As far I know it is only Proto-Germanic /*rughyo-/, and we
> cannot project this protoform in proto-IE. There is no
> trace of initial /w-/ in any ancient Germanic language.
> The item is most probably non-IE substrate.

Pokorny shows Balto-Slavic reflexes:

lit. rugy~s, lett. rudzis `Roggenkorn', Pl. lit. rugiai~,
lett. rudzi `Roggen'; lit. rugiena\ `Roggenacker',
rugi\nis `aus Roggen';

aruss. rúz^ü, serb. ra^z^, russ. roz^ü f. `Roggen'; serb.
raz^an, c^ech. rez^ny/ (aus slav. *rúz^ünú) neben
russ.-ksl. rúz^anú, russ. rz^ano/j `aus Roggen'; bulg.
brica `eine Art Sommergetreide' stammt aus dem Thrak.

That last refers to Thracian <bríza> 'Emmerkorn, Roggen',
which presumably accounts for the *w-.

Brian