Re: [tied] Re: Olsen's Law [was: PIE Ploughs]

From: Joao
Message: 29965
Date: 2004-01-24

In Latin > Romance, -au- prevent following consonants to proceed lenition.
 
Ex:
 
Latin lacus - Portuguese lago, Spanish lago
Latin paucus - Portuguese pouco, Spanish poco
 
 
Joao SL
 
----- Original Message -----
From: elmeras2000
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 1:52 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Olsen's Law [was: PIE Ploughs]

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@......> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:28:37 +0000, elmeras2000 <jer@......> wrote:
>
> >On the following Armenian stuff I need to ask higher up before I
> >make a fool of myself. Still, if intervocalic *t is better
preserved
> >after aw than after other vocalic segments, the same might apply
yo
> >*dh?
>
> Yes, that would explain why it remained as /d/, instead of going
to /z/ or
> /r/.  The funny thing is that *th (> t`) is also usually well-
preserved
> after /aw/, so the voicing to *dh (> /d/) is unexpected.

Birgit has other pressing trouble on her mind, but she does not
recall any sure examples of already-aspirated /th/ remaining t`
after Armenian aw. This reopens the can of worms concerning the
double reflex of RH as ara/araw and her discussion with Winter over
the subject which I do not feel competent to enter.
   It may look strange that, while plain *t definitely yields Arm.
t` after a u-diphthong, including even secondary aw, the IE aspirate
*th appears to yield Arm. d after Arm. aw in two neat, but not
secured, etymologies. Still, the material is so small that we should
probably not begin our interpretation of it by dismissing what
amounts to a large percentage because it does not fit our
expectations.
   The two "auht > aud" etymologies are:
   1. awd (o) 'air, breeze' derived from *H1su-H2uH1-to- (via *-tho-
) 'well-blown';
   2. awdik` pl. 'sheep' (coll.) derived from *H2awiH2tio-m,
identical with OE eowde (Goth. awethi with e for
<ei>?) 'Schafherde'.
   It goes without saying that the analyses are tentative only.
Well, in the presentation of them that is said explicitly.

Jens



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