Re: [tied] Re: laguage of bird names ?= Old European

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From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
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Subject: [tied] Re: laguage of bird names ?= Old European



> Kuhn also notes that oldest PIE words for cattle raising and
> agriculture (Viehzucht und Ackerbau, to avoid terminological
> confusion) have almost no /a/'s, whereas the names of younger
> domesticated animals, ie goat, goose, duck and chicken, is full
> of /a/'s. According to Gimbutas, the kurgan/corded ware culture
> overran Europe in several waves, the first ones only incompletely; so
> if assume the last wave did not spread from the former wave, but
> overran it completely (and then some), then the river names would be
> Pre-PIE loanwords in (western) PIE.

Goats were domesticated before cattle, at roughly the same time as sheep and
pigs, i.e. ca. 8000 BC. They were kept in Europe from the earliest Neolithic
times, so in what sense are they "younger"? As for "almost no /a/'s" in the
vocabulary of farming, how about some of the most important terms, such as,
*h2ag^-e/o- 'drive (animals), lead', *h2ag^ro- 'field' and *h2arh3- 'till'??

Piotr