Re: [tied] Re: PIE's closest relatives

From: Alexander Stolbov
Message: 29756
Date: 2004-01-18

 
The root *kor'i is listed by Illich-Svitych among the Nostratic roots:
 
AA *kr 'lamb, young ram'
Dravidian *kori/kuri 'sheep'
Altaic *kur'i/kor'i 'lamb'
 
Besides, in the comments the author mentions the Kartvelian words (Georgian <krav> 'lamb' and Megrelian <kirib> 'lamb') and IE forms of the root *ker- 'horn' with the suffix -u- (including Gr. krios < *kpiFos), but he thinks that in both cases the probability of borrowings is high.
 
Alexander
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Joao
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: PIE's closest relatives

Could this AA root *kr explain Greek krios "ram", and Karneios, Apollon's epithetus as pastor ?
 
Joao SL
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: PIE's closest relatives

John Croft wrote:

> With the exception of Ancient Egyptian and Proto-
> Semitic, Afro-Asiatic langauges do not share a common vocabulary for
> agricultural items suggesting that the Proto-Berber, Proto-Hausa,
> Proto-Cushitic, Proto-Egyptian and Proto-Semitic dispersed BEFORE
> agriculture spread across the area of the Sahara and Sahel.

From Illich-Svitych (#173):

Afro-Asiatic *kr 'lamb, young ram'
Semitic *kr 'lamb, ram'
Berberic *kr(r) - Tuareg <ekrer> 'ram' ; Shelkha <ikru> 'young ram' ;
Kabilian <ikerri> 'ram'
Chadic - Angas <kir> 'ram on fattening'

Alexander


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