Re: Alb. "z" ( it was Re: [tied] Re: Latin pinso etc.)

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 29706
Date: 2004-01-16

OK. Rather than reply several times to such particular questions I'll
prepare a general outline of consonant changes from PIE to Albanian. You
may expect it about Monday.

Piotr


16-01-04 16:00, alex wrote:
> Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "alex" <alxmoeller@...>
>> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 1:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Latin pinso etc.
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>>> That is that. How can one show there was no "s^" in that time in
>>> BecomingAlbanian but there has been an "z^" ?
>>
>> There wasn't!! *s and *z became respectively *s^ and *z^ much later.
>> The gaps they left in the phonological system of Old Albanian were
>> filled by older *c^ and *3^, which have become Modern Albanian /s/
>> and /z/.
>>
>> Piotr
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> Which *s and *z do you mean here? The PIE *s and *z?
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> Now to this "z". There is a difference in Alb. between "z" and "dh".
> Now, there is in Alb. and Rom. for instance the
> common suffix zã/zë which in Alb. is different from suffix "-dhe" or
> "-dhë" ( equivalent of Rom. suffix -dã)
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> Since you say that the Modern Albanian /z/ is coming from an *3^I have
> to admit in Rom. the /z/ in this suffix is too coming from an *3^which
> is false.
> Then the /z/ in Modern Albanian must be old , at least as old as in Rom.
> The last question here should be interesting for Abdullah. Are there in
> Albanians archaic & regional forms of the words which have variants of
> "z" as "z^" or "gj-"?
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> Alex
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