--- Alexander Stolbov <
astolbov@...> wrote:
> Does it (the head gear) looks like the Egyptian
> pictures of the "plst"
> people and stamps on the Phaistos disc?
> Do Sabatinovka artifacts show something similar?
> Very interesting! Where -
> on pottery, in figurines, in petroglyphs, or ... ?
*****GK: It'll be a while before I can access
Klochko's article. But the title is "The 'people of
the sea' and the northern shores of the Black
Sea".****
>(AS) What does it mean - a "Thrakoid culture"? A
cultural
> influence or an ethnic
> attribution?
> I'm asking because usually the Belogrudovskaya c. is
> considered as the
> direct descendant of the East Trzciniec c. (not
> affected by the Lausitzer
> c.), i.e. it should continue the "Corded Ware line".
*****GK: I confess that "Thrakoid" is my own
designation. My sources simply say "Thracian". But
after Piotr's demonstration of the differences between
"Thracian" and "Dacian" I started to use "Thrakoid" so
as to indicate (a)that this population of the RB
Ukraine was a part of the Thraco-Getan continuum
(judging by the hydro- and toponyms which have
survived), but that (b) we have no way of knowing
whether its language was "Thracian", "Getan", or
something different enough to warrant another label,
while part of the larger family.== As for the
Bilohrudivska culture: there are two areas, as
northern and a southern. The northern is closer to its
Tshynets roots, while the southern is a continuation
of the Komariv c. (which was under heavy influence by
Noa). I can't be sure whether the "Thracian" toponyms
which form the northern boundaries of the
Bilohrudivska and Chornolis cultures already existed
in the time of the former, or were in statu nascendi.
In any case the "Thrakoid" nature of the Chornolis c.
is clear enough, and both are deemed ancestral to that
of the "agricultural Scythians". Just north of the
Bilohrudivska, in the forest zone, we have the
so-called Lebedyn culture, deemed to be that of the
later "southern Neuri".******
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