Re: [tied] Torsten is a crackpot

> > And what is it that ticks you off this time?
>
> That I
> > ask Piotr of his
> > opinion of the historical events around the
> > glottogenesis of Proto-
> > Germanic and you know that there is no way to get
> > around the starting
> > point of Thuringia, given the evidence I've
> > presented, which is the
> > _consensus_ opinion. In other words, you don't want
> > the question of
> > the geographical origin of the "new people" in
> > Thuringia, using Roman
> > weapons, solved?
>
> *****GK: Are you saying that it is now the "consensus"
> (on this list or anywhere) that proto-Germanic
> originated in Thuringia in Caesar's time,

That's what I get from reading Kuhn and Meid. If you admit the
existence of a Nordwestblock, the inevitable conclusion is that the
Germanic language originated further east than the Rhine limes.
Archaeology points to Thuringia. Udolph disagrees heartily, but I
don't think his position is tenable; at the same time he
records "thrusts", ie. migrations from the Thuringia to the north and
the west. Unless he wants to claim Germans conquered Germans leaving
German place names in their wake.

>and that it
> arrived there from Snorri fairyland?

That's what I still want to find out.

>Is that your
> "new" position?*****
> >

As modified above, yes.

Torsten