Re: Vanir,etc.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Marco Moretti"
<marcomoretti69@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>

wrote:

> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Marco Moretti"
> >
> > > Iranian > Armenian /Vahagn/. But Iranian influence in Neolithic
> > > Europe is an anachronism.
> >
> > Which is another way of saying it didn't happen. I say it did.
>
> It didn't happen, be sure!.

Because you say so?

> > >The ethnonym Vangiones is of unceretain
> > > origin, but /Wagnijo/, /Vagn/ are derived from IE for "vehicle".
> >
> > That is another proposal, not the gospel truth.
>
> Yes another proposal. But more reliable than your bizarre one!
> I don't offer "gospel truth" and how I can do it if I'm essentially
> pagan?
>

You certainly don't offer evidence.

> > > My mind is not a living encyclopedia. I need to consult works
> that
> > > are for me unaccessible from my PC in my office, from where I'm
> > > writing. Every suggestion needs verification, and this is very
> > > tiring, when I reach home I'm tired, and the only thing I can

do

> is
> > > to drink. So be patient. I'll make surveys in depth in the
> weekend.
> > >
> >
> > I see. So what you really meant is that you would dismiss the

idea

> > until the weekend.
>
> Yes. If there's some good evidence I accept an idea, otherwise I
> dismiss it. Is it so strange!
>

Then how come you don't offer evidence to back up your own ideas?

> > > Thor Heyerdahl? The same of the Kon-Tiki?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> He's a strange source. I respect Thor Heyerdahl, he recognized
> portents like hopoe flight (that bears war) and his efforts to
> restore old Viking pagan tradition are admirable, etc..., but he's
> not a linguist.
>

I didn't claim he was.

> > > If there are inscriptions or other evidence, I can accept
> > everything,
> > > e.g. that the language of Vani kingdom was Ubykh, etc...
> > > But this doesn't make things easier. As far I know Albanians

(or

> > > Alanians) are an Iranian people, ancestors of the Ossetians.
> > >
> >
> > The Caucasian Albanians are not the Alans. They were the third
> > Caucasian people along with Georgians and Armenians to design a
> > written language. Unlike them they are now Muslim.
>
> I read that Romans called the same Iranian people Alani, Alauni or
> Albani.

Your source is mistaken.

> > > I only dismissed Kartvelian links, not North Caucasian links.
> > > I don't take anything moral (I'm essentially an amoral being).
> > >
> >
> > No comment.
>
> A friend of mine answered the same thing when I asked him if he
> practised to his girl anulingus.
>

Is this the way you usually react to losing a debate?

Torsten