Re: [tied] Tor/Tur/(e) [Re: Vanir,etc.]

From: Joao
Message: 29570
Date: 2004-01-14

There are a lot of European toponymic with Tur-/Tor-, but it doesnt mean necessarily that all are connected. It reminded the theories that linked all places with Kar-: Karnak, Halikarnassos, Karia, Karu, Kari, Karnum, etc, in an attempt to explain Tupian word kari "white man" (cf. Carioca < *Cari-oca "white man's house").
 
Joao SL
----- Original Message -----
From: m_iacomi
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:23 AM
Subject: [tied] Tor/Tur/(e) [Re: Vanir,etc.]

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Marco Moretti" wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" wrote:

>> I suspect WGmc *þonar- vs. NGmc *þorr. Acc. to Snorri, Thor is
>> much older than Odin [...]

Statement (1).

>> [...] he live in Thrace [...]

Statement (2).

>> [...] and Europe is filled with Tor/Tur- placenames

Statement (3).
The word "filled" sounds somehow odd in the context, but for the
sake of the argument, let's accept (up to paragraph's end...) that
(3) is valid.
What is the link between {(1),(2)} and (3)?

>> (Zürich, Torino etc)

Bad examples (if some link between {(1),(2)} and (3) is meant).
"Zürich" is a corrupted germanized form of Latin "Turicum" --
the name Romans give to the city they founded in 15 B.C. -- which
has nothing to do with "Thor", being probably connected to Celtic
"dur" `water`.
"Torino" is obviously continuing "Taurinum", the Latin name for
a city founded by (Celtic people) "Tauri(ni)" in the IVth century
B.C., still not connected with "Thor".
"etc" is not a placename and does not exhibit any Thor-likeness
to be taken into account. :-)
Other suggestions?!

> Phonetics doesn't match at all. Absolutely impossible.

Seemingly, not only phonetics.

  Regards,
            Marius Iacomi


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