Re: Vanir,etc.

From: Marco Moretti
Message: 29566
Date: 2004-01-14

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Marco Moretti"
>
> > Iranian > Armenian /Vahagn/. But Iranian influence in Neolithic
> > Europe is an anachronism.
>
> Which is another way of saying it didn't happen. I say it did.

It didn't happen, be sure!.

> >The ethnonym Vangiones is of unceretain
> > origin, but /Wagnijo/, /Vagn/ are derived from IE for "vehicle".
>
> That is another proposal, not the gospel truth.

Yes another proposal. But more reliable than your bizarre one!
I don't offer "gospel truth" and how I can do it if I'm essentially
pagan?

> > My mind is not a living encyclopedia. I need to consult works
that
> > are for me unaccessible from my PC in my office, from where I'm
> > writing. Every suggestion needs verification, and this is very
> > tiring, when I reach home I'm tired, and the only thing I can do
is
> > to drink. So be patient. I'll make surveys in depth in the
weekend.
> >
>
> I see. So what you really meant is that you would dismiss the idea
> until the weekend.

Yes. If there's some good evidence I accept an idea, otherwise I
dismiss it. Is it so strange!

> > Thor Heyerdahl? The same of the Kon-Tiki?
>
> Yes.

He's a strange source. I respect Thor Heyerdahl, he recognized
portents like hopoe flight (that bears war) and his efforts to
restore old Viking pagan tradition are admirable, etc..., but he's
not a linguist.

> > If there are inscriptions or other evidence, I can accept
> everything,
> > e.g. that the language of Vani kingdom was Ubykh, etc...
> > But this doesn't make things easier. As far I know Albanians (or
> > Alanians) are an Iranian people, ancestors of the Ossetians.
> >
>
> The Caucasian Albanians are not the Alans. They were the third
> Caucasian people along with Georgians and Armenians to design a
> written language. Unlike them they are now Muslim.

I read that Romans called the same Iranian people Alani, Alauni or
Albani. Actual religion doesn't matter (every people has its moments
of craziness).

> > I only dismissed Kartvelian links, not North Caucasian links.
> > I don't take anything moral (I'm essentially an amoral being).
> >
>
> No comment.

A friend of mine answered the same thing when I asked him if he
practised to his girl anulingus.

Marco