Re: Vanir,etc.

From: tgpedersen
Message: 29509
Date: 2004-01-13

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Marco Moretti"
> <marcomoretti69@...> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > So I move the hypercorrection back to PGmc. How's that for you?
> > >
> >
> > Without any evidence. Can you provide other examples of supposed
> > hypercorrections? I think it's idle.
> >
>
> I suspect WGmc *þonar- vs. NGmc *þorr. Acc. to Snorri, Thor is much
> older than Odin, he lives in Thrace, and Europe is filled with
Tor/Tur-
> placenames (Zürich, Torino etc)

Not to forget the Hermunduri < some Iranian dialect *erman-dur- "Tur-
people", replaced later by the translation Thuringi, later Doringi,
ie. þur-inga-, of which the earliest contingent ended up as Tungri in
Tongern (note that the /t/ is _not_ yet Grimm-shifted!), cf Tacitus'
remark that those they first called Germani later turned out to be
Tungri, to be understood as just another group among the Germani. The
reality behind this is that as the Romans decimate the Nordwestblock
peoples, more and more join the "Germanic cause" and also language,
for obviously practical reasons. A linguistic polarisation, in other
words.

Torsten