Re: [tied] Re: PIE's closest relatives

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 29398
Date: 2004-01-12

Marco inputs:
>Akkadian /eru:/ is not from /*weru:/.

Alright. Where _is_ it from?


>It's not a "bright ship" nor a "bright sun ten". It is simply /ur
>(u)/ "bright object" + /du/ "to mould", as seen in Halloran's lexicon.

Yeah, but Halloran's proposals are not rational. If you're going by them,
then we have to part ways because I will never agree with what you're
saying. Halloran has put a lot of work into his Sumerian lists, but the
etymologies he provides are nonsense.


>Surely it has nothing to do with Austronesian.

Please. Bringing Halloran's pseudo-etymologies into this is insane
enough. Let's not rock the boat more than we have to.


>I never said that Sumerian and IE were in direct contact. Proposed
>matchups, if valid, must be secondary.

Good. So there needs to be a path from A to B by which this
loan wanders. It's not good enough to say what the ultimate
source is. HOW did it get from A to B? At least some of them,
I believe, were transferred via a para-Semitic language
situated once in Northern Anatolia c.5500 BCE. This seems to
be the only proposal that explains *septm, at least. So I naturally
wonder whether it can explain *?reudH- and I've given my
thoughts on that already, take it or leave it. If you leave it,
you're left with far more fantastical ideas than mine.


>Once again libraries! I have already told you that we have no similar
>resources in libraries: I searched for many years and I found very
>little.

Start a romance with your librarian. Sometimes these relationships
can yield books that were otherwise hidden from view :)


= gLeN

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