[tied] Re: Non-Indo-European in Germanic

From: tgpedersen
Message: 29347
Date: 2004-01-10

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
wrote:
> At 9:03:19 AM on Thursday, January 8, 2004, tgpedersen
> wrote:
>
> > According to Udolph's maps the place-names (PN in the
> > genitive +) -leben/-lev "fief(?)" and *haugaz "hill,
> > mound" have approximately the same distributions:
> > Thuringia, Schleswig and Eastern Denmark with Scania (I'd
> > have to vouch for *haugaz on the latter, since Udolph's
> > map doesn't cover, but I think it holds).
>
> > So, in those areas someone (ie. a king) at one time had
> > the power ti distribute the land to his men,
>
> This doesn't follow at all. First, the generic (<-leua>,
> <-lebo>, <-leiba>) clearly goes with OHG <leiba>, OS <le:va>
> 'Hinterlassenschaft', ON <leif> 'Erbschaft', OE <la:f> 'what
> is left, relic, remains'. There is nothing here to indicate
> how the Magolf of Magolfeslebo (now Molschleben), for
> instance, acquired his estate.
>

German 'Lehen' is from the same root, I believe, PIE *leipW-, to use
Miguel's invention? And Magolf might have been Magolf Junior, or
Magolf III (most likely higher numbers).

Torsten