[tied] Re: PIE's closest relatives

From: gknysh
Message: 29343
Date: 2004-01-10

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Alexander Stolbov" <astolbov@...>
wrote:
it would be possible to claim that Proto-Balts
> (and Proto-Slavs) like Proto-Germans were a part of the Corded Ware
> movement, and they moved first westward but then returned back
(eastward) to
> the Middle Dnieper and Upper Volga to form there the Fatyanovo c.
(also a
> Corded Ware c.).

*****GK: Further conclusions aside, we do have a few indubitable
archaeological facts. I'm not sure about the early "northward"
situation, but the movement "westward" from the PIE massif (as you
call it) began long before the emergence of the Yamna(ya) cultural
complex. There is solid evidence for the presence of
substantial "Corded Ware" groups in the area between Trypilia and
Funnel Beaker while the latter two cultures still existed. There is,
subsequently, evidence for close cultural relationships
between "Corded Ware" and Trypilia on the Dnister. A third phase sees
the emergence of the mixed Usatove culture near Odesa (a mixture of
Corded Ware, Trypilian and Lower Mykhajlivka elements) which is
synchronous with the start of Late Trypilia (enormously influenced by
Corded Ware) and Yamna. And centuries later, we do see a reflux of
Corded Ware eastward, creating both Dnipro and Fatyanovo cultures.
The Dnipro Corded Ware actually covers earlier Yamna sites. At about
the same epoch "Corded Ware" pushes strongly further west into
Europe. Mallory's difficulties in comparing Yamna and Corded Ware
stems from the fact that he is comparing Yamna and Corded Ware phase
IV, rather than the Skelya horizon cultures (e.g. Serednyj Stih,
Novodanylivka etc.) and Corded Ware phase I.*******