From: S & L
Message: 28821
Date: 2003-12-28
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From: Mate Kapović
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003
Subject: Re: [tied] RE: etyma for Crãciun, RomanianforChristmas
... the word is definitely Slavic. (So DEX is wrong :-))
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Jagič [in the “Archiv für Slavische Philologie” review, II, 610], Schuchard
[“Archiv für Slavische Philologie”, IX, 526], Berneker Erich [“Slavisches
etymologisches Wörterbuch”, vol. I, Heildelberg, 1908-’13; page 604] think
otherwise; it is about a Romanian origin for the Slavic words.
Mladenov Stefan [“Etimologičeski i pravopisen rečnik na bãlgarskija knižoven
ezik”. Sofia, 1941, page 256] think that the Bulgarian kračon, kračunek is
coming directly from Latin.
Unfortunately for you [and Alex?], this time DEX is not wrong.
In macedoromanian and megleromanian we have Crãţun, Crãciun, Cãrţun. The
phonetic form from macedoromanian indicates a Latin etymon which must be
“creationem” [among others, Alejandro/Alexandru Ciorãnescu], with the
meaning of “child” as in sard. kriathone [Wagner M. L., “Caracteres
generales del judeo-espanol de Oriente”, Madrid, 1934, page 90], old Spanish
criazón, cf. Spanish crio.
Alejandro/Alexandru Ciorãnescu [Diccionario Etimologico Rumano, 1958-’59,
Biblioteca Filologica, La Laguna University; Dictionarul Etimologic al
Limbii Romane, Saeculum, Bucuresti, 2002] think that Crãciun meant in the
beginning the “Jesus child” and in this way is explained also why the word
is used as first name and family name and latter when a celebration was
personalized.
S o r i n
P.S. “…Slavic etymon is the only possible since the word is found in Slavic,
Hungarian and Romanian”.
So, for you, each word found in Slavic, Hungarian and Romanian has an Slavic
etymon ?