Re: [tied] Sumerian _nangar_ 'carpenter' (was: "Will the 'real' lin

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 01:30:38 +0000, Richard Wordingham
> <richard.wordingham@...> wrote:
>
> >--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "S.Kalyanaraman <kalyan97@...>"
> ><kalyan97@...> wrote:
> >> In a contact area of IVC, across the gulf, there are some hints
> >that
> >> a substrate language may explain Sumerian words: <Snip>
> >nangar 'carpenter'
> ><Snip>
> >What's the syllabification here?
>
> nagar(a) "carpenter".
>
> >The word looks very like Semitic
> >*naggar- 'carpenter', e.g. Hebrew _naggar_, Arabic _najjar_. To

add

> >to the confusion, Babylonian optionally used a nasal to indicate
> >gemination.
>
> The word is not known in Akkadian (I mean, I don't know what the

Akkadian

> is for "carpenter", but I don't think it's nagga:r). The sign NAGAR

(A) only

> has one phonetic value in Akkadian, /alla/. As a Sumerogram, the
> pronunciation is presumably known from Akkadian pronunciation

guides, where

> it was presumably written na-ga-ra. I don't know if there are any
> pronunciation guides where it was spelled nag-ga-ra.
>

Any connection with Vedic 'langala', Dravidian 'nangol' "plough" (see

http://www.boloji.com/history/025.htm
, I assume his data are OK)

in which case the plough would be an "implement"?

Torsten