Re: [tied] Romanian Swadesh list -> 10% substratual

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:37:52 +0000, altamix <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

>> > 6. Rom. 'a zbura' - to fly, is explained from Latin by 'ex-
>volare'
>> >that seems to be a forced link : to put 'ex + volare' in order to
>> >explain 'zb'
>>
>> There's nothing forced about it. exvolare > zbura.
>
>Nope. A zbura is not Latin.

Yep. It's Romanian.

>the function of "ex-" in Latin _is not_
>the function of the prefix "s" in Romanian.

Yes it is. And it's the same as Italian s-.

>> > 'voi' - 'will' - 'volere'
>>
>> voleo "I want" > vol^u > voiu > voi. Cf. Catalan vull (/bui/).
>
>ah.. that nice combination of Slavic with Latin: "a vrea" versus "a
>voi".
>just for fun: Slavic volja > voie; from voie > a voi. cf. Slavic and
>not cf. Catallan. And know why? Conjucation with -esc instead of
>weak "-u".:eu voiesc, tu voieSti.
>Anyway , this is not used since it sounds too astrange. The used form
>is for future voi, vei, va, vom, veTi, (v)or.
>For " I want" the average Rom. use " a vrea", with no -esc in cong.:
>vreau, vrei, vrea, vrem, vreTi, vrea ( literary: vor)

The noun voie is from Slavic volja. The verb vrea is from Latin volere.
We've discussed this before.


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