Re: [tied] Re: 'Dog' revisited

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 27781
Date: 2003-11-28

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:56:43 +0100, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

>27-11-03 20:22, Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:05:15 +0000, Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...>
>
>>>I'm still thinking about the supposed accent on *u in the variant
>>>*kúwo:n. Yet with *dúwo:-, it becomes a little more suspect as
>>>evidence for Piotr's case. Is it possible that this is just a rule
>>>affecting nouns starting in Cw- where C is any stop?
>>
>> As long as they are monosyllabic. *dwo: and *duwo: are called "Lindeman
>> variants". I'm not sure if the phenomenon is known as "Lindeman's Law",
>> but, in any case, you have rediscovered it.
>
>Lindeman's "law", which is a subcase of generalised Sievers-Edgerton's
>Law, describes the variable treatment of initial CR clusters, where R is
>any liquid, nasal or semivowel. Typical examples include *d[i]je:us,
>*gW[n.]na:h2, *h1[i]jonts and *g^H[i]jo:m . Let's note, however, that
>Lindeman variants normally show unshifted stress, and that they are very
>rare when R = *w. Apart from *k^uwo:n and *duwo:, the only clear example
>I can only think of is the Sanskrit treatment of pronominal forms
>(<tva:M> ~ <tuva:M>). Other examples (like <svar-> ~ <suvar-> 'sun')
>involve roots with laryngeals (*sh2wel-) that affected their
>syllabification. There are no Lindeman variants of such well-known roots
>as *dHwor- 'door' or *g^Hwer- 'wild animal', so in my opinion *k^uwo:n
>and *duwo: really stand apart.

If *k^(u)wo:n is really *pk^(u)wo:n, that immediately explains the Lindeman
variant.

Now that would require a lost consonant in *d(u)wo: as well...

There *is* the curious tendency of "2" to lose the *d, not only in
Tocharian, where that is to be expected, but in Gaulish vo- < *dwo-, the
word for "20" (*h1wi-), etc. If *dak^ru- "tear" is *dh2ak^ru- ~ *h2ak^ru-,
then *dwo: "2" is perhaps *dh1wi- ~ *h1wi-. Note, for what it's worth,
North-West Caucasian *t.q.Wa "2".


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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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