On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:47:12 +0000, Glen Gordon <
glengordon01@...>
wrote:
>Piotr:
>>*ukWsn.-sko:r or *tauro-k^okWros, perhaps :-)
>
>Where does *kokWros come from? It doesn't smell right... erh I mean look
>right. I thought *kakas was reconstructed or are they two different words.
>Is *sko:r an inanimate noun or does the lengthening indicate an absorbed
>nominative *-s? What's that root based on? I've never seen it before,
>but then again, I try to avoid shit in my life whenever I can :)
*k^okWros is reflected in Greek kópros. In view of Skt. s'ákr.t, s'aknás,
the PIE form is perhaps better reconstructed as an r/n-stem *k^okWr.(t),
*k^ékWnos.
EIEC is probably wrong in suggesting a doublet *k^ókWr ~ *sók^r. This
latter form is based there on ON skarn, OE scearn, Latv. sa:rn,i, OCS
sIrati (verb), Russ sor (noun), Grk sko:r (skatós), Hitt. sakkar (saknas),
zasgar-ais "anus", Av. sairya-. In my opinion, these forms cannot be
traced to a paradigm *sók^r., *s(e)k^nós, but instead reflect *(s)k^ór(h2),
*(s)k^nés (*sk^n.tós in Greek). Only Hitt. sakkar may be interpreted as
*sókr., but the variant form zakkar (/tskár/ < *sko(:)r) suggests
otherwise.
A form *(s)k^ór- instead suggests a link with the third excrement noun
listed in EIEC, *kerd- (Lat. -cerda in muscerda, bucerda, sucerda; German
Harz "resin"; Khot. kha:rgga- (< *xarD-ka-) "mud", MPers. xard "clay",
Shughni s^arTk "clay", s^arD- "defecate", Pashto axe:r.&l "to plaster"
(EIEC: "the Iranian all from *kh-"); Skt. kardama "mud, slime, dirt"; TochA
kärtka:l, B ka:rkka:lle "swamp" (< PToch. verb *kärtk- < *kr.d-sk^é-). The
problem is that these words point to *k (Iranian *kHVr- or *krV-?), while
*sk^or- has *k^.
The root *k^ókWr-/*k^ekWn- suggests an origin in something like
**ka(:)k(k)u- + -an-, and this expressive formation was recreated many
times (MIr. caccaid, Lat. caca:re, Grk. kakkao:, Russ. kákat', Du. kakken,
all verbal, Arm k`akor "excrement").
The true bovine excrement is represent by the fourth root listed in EIEC,
*gWuH-, with variants *gWuh1tós (Arm. ku, Av. gu:Ta-, Skt. gu:tha-), German
Kot < qua:t < *gW(w)e(:)h1-dho- and Slavic govIno (*gWowh1-no-?).
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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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