Re: Lat. cotoneus > Rum. gutui is ok?

> There is no irregularity. The word "cãlcân'" is alive in Banat
>subdialect. Regular evolution of "n'" (phonetically written on
>cybalist [n^]) is towards a iot in most DR speaking area.

I haven't heard of the Banat <cãlcân~> myself (and I don't
doubt its existence), but I know of similar (i.e. ... archaic)
constructions there, such as: <tu spun~> [spun^], instead of
<tu spui> [spuj], "you say; tell," which is valid everywhere else
outside the region of Banat. (The older variant thereof is however
attested in documents several c. old, AFAIR.)

> Have you had some strong drink before stating the stress is on
>(final) "i" in "gutui"?! The word is /gutúy/, the "i" does not
>even note a vowel but the non-vocalic element of the diphthong
>which cannot be stressed. I can't imagine a native Romanian
>speaker stressing "gutuí" except for fun, by inventing an ad-hoc
>verb possibly meaning `to transform [something] into a quince`.

By the way, if the name of a mountain in the province of
Maramuresh (North of Transylvania), Gutâi (articled: Gutâiul
[-'--]), means the same thing, then its variant, Gutin (articled:
Gutinul [-'--]), might be a sort of a... living fossil, i.e., an evidence
for the archaic <-n-> that's been dropped in modern (D-)Romanian.

> Marius Iacomi

George

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