[tied] Re: All of creation in Six and Seven

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
wrote:

>
> John:
> >Sound like the WTO and modern Corporate Globalisation? It should,
> >it was the origin of unequal patterns of economic exchange we see
> >today.
>
> Torsten:
> >Thanks, John.
>
> No, Torsten, John didn't save your ass. All John ended up doing is
> reiterating Brian's statement -- that trade was accomplished in

those

> times through a network, necessitating neighbours to pass along

goods

> from place to place like a profitable game of Telephone.

He did?

>
> What John describes is far-reaching _sea_ trade.

I'm sorry. I thought the Mediterranean was a sea.

>Obviously. Why spend
> hours and hours hauling goods across a stretch of coastline or
>trying to
> pass goods from one place to another with a hundred middle-men in
> between when you can trade directly with everybody and save time?
> Plus boats make hauling goods a heckuvalot easier. So all these

benefits

> are the very reasons why the neolithic flourished so well around the
> Mediterranean and other significant bodies of water. In-land peoples
> only reaped secondary gains from the sea-based economic explosion.

I am glad to see you have accepted my point of view.

> I've already mentioned that IndoEuropean speakers were not sea
> people. So it absolutely requires an intermediary group to pass
> the goods from a Mediterranean (or Black Sea) port to a place in-

land.

> With in-land trade, it ain't that simple. If you're lucky,

Like if your're living on the Don River.

>

>you might be
> able to buy some goods at a port and then haul it by *naxu- up a
> river to where your village is.
>

Repeat: the Don is a wide and quiet river.

> At any rate, there's no way that trade could be done as effectively
> as it had if it wasn't efficient.

I understand.

>Trading networks (or any networks,
> in fact) are efficient. Your system is inefficient because it

involves

> everybody travelling far distances when it is of no benefit to them.

No, it involves some people sailing on the Don.

> Networking and mutual cooperation alleviated what would otherwise
> be a profitless nightmare.
>
>

I understand. The laws of transport economics are different for a
ship on the Don and a ship in the sea.

Torsten