Re: [tied] Illyrian=Albanian (2)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

> Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
> > ERENIK, river name in Kosova. According to my view, it is of

Celtic

> > origin < *aire `strong river', through regular evolution of PIE
> > diphthong /*ai/ > /e/ (cf. *baita `goat skin' > Alb. petk (Buzuku,
> > petëk `clothes', *aig^- > edh `goat kid', etc.). I am not sure

about

> > other river names, extended in /s/ or /z/: Ersekë and Erzen in
> > Albania.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Konushevci
>
>
> Somehow is a hotchpotch here. One looks and has the feeling there

is no

> way to find the way around anymore. What I mean here with?:
>
> Alb. "edh" should derive from PIE *aig^- but Rom. "ied, iezi" should
> derive from Latin "haedus". Of course there shouldn't be any

connection

> between Latin "haedus" and *aig^- since Latin should derive from a
> certain *ghaidos because there is the Germanic cognate( nothing

else as

> the Germanic). It seems very unlike that the IE languages does not

share

> a common word for a such important word in the pastoral life as the
> "haedus" is. I don't make any assumptions here because that will

mean a

> loan into Germanic and Latin of this word from a language where g^
> d
> (see the (g)haid- versus (h)aig^-))
> for "(h)aig^- I assume there was in fact a *ghaig^- if the word can

be

> interpreted semantic to "little beeing" as the PIE "me:lo" (Pok
> #1272).
>
> About *baita > petk Vinereanu supposed the same etymology of

*baita >

> petec since he suppose that the diphtong "ai" monoftongued to "e";
> curious, the latin "ae" ( PIE "ai") later monoftongued to "e" to in

Rom.

>
> Alex

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I believe that Alb. <dhia> 'goat' is from PIE *dig^h(y)a:, cognate
with Thrac. <diza> 'id.' OlHG <ziga> 'id' and Arm. <tik>.

Konushevci