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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> I got it now. Just one question. Why do you make me belive you
think
> English "ruff" is not deriving from the same root as
German "raufen"?
Which "ruff" do you mean?
A. The fish.
B. The article of neckwear.
C. Trumping etc. at cards.
D. The bird (male sandpiper to be precise).
Which "raufen" do you mean:
1. Pull out.
2. Fight.
I offer two guesses.
a) I wrote, 'OE _ru:h_ > English "rough", formerly [rVf] in X-SAMPA,
i.e.
homophonous with English "ruff".', and you don't
understand 'homophonous'.
b) You're psychic. (The Oxford Etymological Dictionary does not
suggest that they might be cognate.)
Richard.