Re: [tied] Re: All of creation in Six and Seven

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 27353
Date: 2003-11-17

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:34:25 +0000, Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...>
wrote:

>The point is that there are evidently ample
>phonemes to choose from in IE that could approximate Semitic
>ayin, rather than merely ignoring the phoneme, even if the
>approximation isn't perfect.

PIE had h1 (h?), h2 (x?) and h3 (G/xW?), so an inventory more or less like
that of Dutch. Yet in Dutch, `Arafat is pronounced as Arafat, not Harafat,
Garafat or Charafat.

>Yet another obvious factor is that IE evidently shows no vowel
>between *p and *t, let alone accent. To propose Pre-IE *-pVt- is
>baseless (not based on any adequate and well proven Pre-IE rule)

Zero grade?

>and is just unnecessary assumption. Proposing that the accent
>was initial however doesn't require any make-believe syllable
>conveniently gone missing.

Sure, the accent was initial in pre-PIE. That doesn't say anything about
the donor language. The accent is usually the first thing to go when a
word gets borrowed into another language. Ask Piotr.


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