Re: [tied] Re: Albanian "dy"

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:48:49 +0100, alex <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

>I thought you will wonder about *dúwo and Rom. "doi", "douã" compartive
>with Lat. *dui,

Classical Latin duo. Vulgar dui is attested, so no asterisk required.

>duae and Alb. "dy", "dy:"
>"nouã" vs. Lat "novem", "nouã/noi" vs. Lat "novis";

Do you mean nobis?

>"vouã/voi" vs. Lat. "vobis"
>More, maybe should be interesting to see that "trei" was in Greek too
>"trei"

No. Greek treîs is a contraction of trees < *treyes, and never had /ei/.
Attic <ei> is just a way to spell /e:/, the long closed vowel, as opposed
to êta for the long open vowel /E:/.

>and there is no "i" in Lat. "tres". The apparition of "i" in doi
>and "trei" is due analogy to each other ("doi" influenced by "trei" and
>"trei" influenced by "doi"), etc.

Latin duo, with the dual ending -o:, acquired standard plural endings in
VL, resulting in dui, acc. duos (f. duae, acc. duas). duos > dos, which
regularly becomes doi, by the soundlaw -s > -y in Eastern Romance (Italian
and Romanian) monosyllables. Same for vos > voi "you (pl)" and nos > noi
"we". Same also in the case of tre:s > trei.

Feminine douã also looks like an accusative (dúas > dúwa > dówã), but in
view of Italian <due> < duae, and Rom. nouã "9" < nove, I suppose it can
also reflect the nominative duae > dúwe > dówã. Same then for nobis > noBe

> nouã, vobis > voBe > vouã, with -Be/-we > -wã.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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