Re: Celtic and Baltic

From: tgpedersen
Message: 27174
Date: 2003-11-14

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Torsten:
> >I looked it up: it was Bomhard, not Møller, and it was the cognates
> >of Latin 'rota', not the *k-l- word, but other than that, it was
> >accurate. My ears are red.
>
> That's what I thought. I remember this root. The IE root is *rotx-
> and if I recall, the Semitic equivalent was supposed to convey "to
roll"
> containing a t-underdot. Unfortunately, I think I've permanently
lost
> my precious "Indo-European and the Nostratic Hypothesis" in my
> incessant moving last year. I thought the connection was
interesting,
> not because it is a Nostratic root (surely it isn't), but rather
because I
> think that this might be indicative another Semitic loanword into IE
> during some point in the neolithic.
>

ProtoAfroAsiatic *rat[h]-/*r&t[h]- "to turn, to roll; to run"
Semitic:
Arabic
rata'a "to go away,to depart; to gallop with short steps"
rataka "to run with short steps, to trot"
Proto-Southern Cushitic *rat- "to continue onward" >
Ma'a iritimé/iratimé "crossing, ford"
Dahalo
rat_- "to walk about"
rat_t_idh- "to continue (something)"

No underdotted t's, underscored ones in Dahalo.

I can't see how Bomhard gets turning and rolling out of this. This
point is important since we are dealing with the "wheel" word and the
analysis might used as evidence in the debate for the origin of the
wheel.

Cf the *k-l- word
Møller
*gW-l-

PIE *kW-l-
Old Norse hvel "wheel"
etc

Semitic *gW-l > g-w-l-
Arabic
ga:la "he went round, he wheeled round"
ga:luN, gu:luN "the wall that surrounds a well"
miga:luN "circus"
etc


Torsten