[tied] Re: illyrian lexicon or inventory

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 27142
Date: 2003-11-13

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
> > oseriates (lakes) Slavic *ozero (a lake), Lithuanian ez'eras (a
> > lake)
>
> ach.. and Rom. "iezer" too:-)
>
> > teuta- (people, a tribe) "European" *teutá- (people, a tribe),
> > Oscan touta (a tribe), Gaulish teuto- (people)
>
> which should be the outgoing point for Latin "tuto" and all
derivatives
> of it with the general meaning of "all".
> See French tout, It. tutti, Rom. toTi; in Germanic getting the
sense of
> "our people";
>
> Alex
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According to Pokorny, we have root te:u-, t&u-, teu_&-, tu_o:-, tu:>-
"to swell; crowd, folk; fat; strong; boil, abscess"
and 9. t-Ableitung teuta: `(Menge) Volk, Land'; teutono-s
`Landesherr': Illyr. PN , Teutana, Teuticus, ; messap. PN t|eotoria,
Gen. t|eotorras; thrak. PN Tauto-medes; osk. , touto, umbr. Akk.
totam `civitas'; gall. GN Teutates (*teuto-tatis `Landesvater' zu
tata, oben S. 1056), ju"nger Toutates, To:tates, Tu:tates, PN
Teutio:, Toutius, Tu:tius, Toutonos;
air. tu:ath `Volk, Stamm, Land', cymr. tu:d `Land', corn. tus, mbret.
tut, nbret. tud `die Leute';
got. iuda, ahd. diot(a) `Volk', as. thiod(a), ags. e/od, aisl. jo:
`Volk, Leute', wovon ahd. diutisc, nhd. deutsch (urspru"nglich `zum
eigenem Stamm oder Volk geho"rig', Weissgerber Deutsch als Volksname
1953, 261) und ahd. diuten `versta"ndlich machen (gleichsam
verdeutschen), erkla"ren, deuten', ags. gei:edan `u"bersetzen', aisl.
y:a `ausdeuten, bedeuten'; germ. VN *Theu-dano:z, keltisiert
Teutoni:, Toutoni:, zum da"n. ON Thyte-sysl; got. iudans `Ko"nig'
(*teutonos), aisl.jo:ann, ags. e/oden, as. thiodan ds. (illyr. PN
Teutana, gall. Toutonos);
lett. ta\uta `Volk', apr. tauto `Land', lit. Tauta\ `Oberland,
Deutschland', altlit. (Dauks^a) tauta\ `Volk';

What I like to stress here is the fact that also another PIE root
*leudh- has similar meaning "to grow up, people, free". From this
root we have Alb. <lenj> 'to be born'<*leudh-n- and <polem> 'people'
< *leudh-m-.
If we compare Lat. nascor 'to be born' we may see that from the same
root was derived also <natio> 'people' and Slavic <roditi> 'to beget'
and <narod> 'people'.
I guess that Alb. verb <shtonj> 'to grow up'< sh-*te:u-enyo,
<shtim> 'natality', <e shtunë> (?)'saturday', dështoj 'to abort' are
all chances to be a nucleus of the name <teuta> 'people', besides
others derivatives of this root <tul> 'flash', <tulak> 'muscle", etc.
I really like to know what other members think about this.

Konushevci