[tied] Re: Albanian Names

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 27002
Date: 2003-11-09

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Piotr Gasiorowski"
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "alex" <alxmoeller@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Albanian Names
>
>
> > if Alb. shouldn't be a living language and we shouldnt't know
what means
> > "bardhë" in Alb., we should eassy be tempted to try to link Alb.
> > "bardhë" to IE *bhardha- which should be simply wrong.
>
> That's precisely why bare similarities (like that between
<Bardu:lis> and
> <bardhë>) have little value in etymology. The vast majority of
them are
> accidental.
>
> Piotr
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My opinion about Illyrian king's name <Bardulis> is that it is an
adjective with meaning 'faded,ashen (complexion) or simply light
white' and can't be separated from Alb. adjective <i zbërdhylët>,
formed by prefix z- + bardh 'white' + -ul. Same rule we find in adj.
<i mërtylët>, formed by also adj. <i murrët> 'grey' and suffix -ul,
getting the meaning 'light grey'. We also have in antiquity the same
formation of nouns: compare also Constantius Chlorus (also Illyrian).
The tradition of motivation of anthroponyms and patronyms by colors
continue for a long time in Albanian. The family name of the third
major Albanian writer is Frang Bardhi, author of the Latin-Albanian
Dictionary (1635). The names of the Albanian tribes <Kuqi> 'red' and
<Krasniqi>, probably from Slavic <krasan> 'red', are also motivated
by colors, etc. As patronym is very frequent <Mëziu>, prefixed form
of adj. <i zi> 'black', as toponym we have too <Zym>, etc.

Konushevci