Re: Albanian Names (1) --> Aziz

Hello George,
Sorry, but you made a confusion -> I suppose that my English
translation is not very good...
P^arvan say clearly that : "God Azizus" (atested at Turda, maybe
due to some Syrians colonists in Legiunea V Macedonica) is of Syrian
origin, and we have to exclude it as explanation for the other
toponyms.
Best Regards,
marius a.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, g <george.st@...> wrote:
>
> >Regarding the Thraco-Dacian origin of Albanian name: Aziz
> >
> >P^arvan, GETICA:
> >
> >Adzizio
> >Azizis
> >
> >the God Azizus
>
> The solution to this assumption can be found easily, I suppose.
> For instance, Mr. Abdullah Konusevci might kindly tell us whether
> modern & contemporary Albanians choose the male onomastic item
> <Aziz> as inspired by the Dacian god <Azizus> or rather by Islamic
> onomastics. If though the former possibility is the valid one, then
> I'd be eager myself to learn how come that they honor this way
> that obscure ancient pagan deity -- especially since Albanians have
> been taught for many years now that they are Illyrians.
>
> OTOH, Vasile Pârvan, an excellent archeologist (active at the
> beginning of the 20th c.), wasn't a linguist, AFAIK.
> And in the cited text (thank you for sharing it with us) he barely
> makes an assumption that both toponyms Adzizio and Azizis might
> be put in connection with the deity mentioned on an artefact found
> in Patavissa -- an area quite far away from Albania. Yet there has
> been no way of *concluding* a relation Adzizio-Azizis-Azizos.
>
> But what's on-topic: there's no hint that those toponyms and the
> name of the deity can be put in some relation with the modern
> Albanian male name Aziz. (I expect this idea didn't cross Pârvan's
> mind either.) In the same way, I myself could speculate that Aziz-,
> as an ancient Thracian (maybe Dacian) name, could be a reflex of,
> say, <azen> "chin", < PIE *g"(h)en--. My speculation wouldn't look
> less spectacular, would it? Considering that a... defiant chin fits
both
> a proud deity and a bold Dacian warrior. ;-)
>
> George