Re: [tied] separation and differences

From: alex
Message: 26830
Date: 2003-11-02

Daniel J. Milton wrote:
>> It should be meant about the some lands which the lets got back in
> the
>> teritorium of Nervins and Tervins.
>> (Theses Tervins, should be the Tervins of Thorsten sicne the action
>> which is storied by Eumenii Pan. should happen in the teritorium of
>> Germania ).
>>
>> Alex
> ********
> Alex, are you serious about Letts in this quotation?
> I translate it as something like "At thy nod, Maximianus Augustus,
> the joyous [one], restored to his rights, cultivated the fields of
> the Nervii and Treveri."
> Laetus certainly seems the word "joyful" (< *pri- ? -- my Pokorny
> isn't responding). Or do you want to make the Letts be "The Joyous
> People?"
> Dan


Daniel, I cannot be serious or unserious here. The story is about some
folk which has been banished from the lands they have had, lands which
have been in the theritory of Nervii and Treverii and now they should
have got these lands back.
I guess one has to read the whole passage here for finding out what
about. I have just this sentence and I am not sure if this is not a
simple interpretation of something else.

But there should be something more. For instance there is the law of
Honorius , about 400 AC which remembers about Leeti Alamani which made
some voluntars services to Rom. Empire ( Do my memory makes me a joke
now or Thorstes wrote something about a certain Germanic Tribe who
should have broken the prohibition of seling weapos or something like
this?).
About law of Honorius, see Codex Theodosius lib IV, tit 20, 12(Ed. I.
Gothofredi), Tom. II (1665), p. 434

Curious, how much lack of phantesy here within europe. So odd, people
call themselves with the same name. For instance, we have again a
mention about Laeti by Amianus (Lib XVI,11) where they are supposed to
be on the other side of the Rhein , in the Germanic land and they are
called "Laeti barbarorum progenies".
Zosimus too should remember about them in Hist.II. c.54 speaking about
cesar Magnentius which got a Latin Education by... the Laeti which is by
now a folk in Gallia.
In Notitia Dignitatum utrisque imperii should be some names as follow:
-Praefectus Laetorum Teutonicianorum
-Praefectus Laetorum Batavorum and many others ( should this here indeed
mean "joyfull"? hmmm...)

Well, Jordanes remember us abotu general Aetius which has made up an
Army of several folks where one could find some francs, Sarmats,
Amoritians and Lititians. If they are too "Laets" , let it be this oder
that way..

Some more mentions
-the city from Galia called "Litanobriga" (see Intinerarius Antonini)
-the regions Armorica, today Bretagne even in Midle Age was stil called
"Letavia"( see Life of St. Gilda, (Acta SS. Jan 2.961)
"Cum dei jussu pervenisset in Armoricam, quondam Galliae regionem, tunc
autem a Britannis, a quibus possidebatur, Letavia dicebatur. " cg. Du
Cange, Gloss. Mediev.Lat. ; v. Leti.-Glück, Die keltische Namen ,
München p.121

One of the leader of Gallas in Aquintania is noted by Cesar as being
Calesd "Litavicus". On the gallic coins before Roman conquest there are
coins inscripted with "LITA" and "LITAV"
etc.etc.etc

Please Daniel, take these informations _as they are_ since I did not
verified them by myself. I attention you I won't pay anything to your
insurance if the info given here are not accurate:--)))

Alex