Re: separation and differences

Hello Alex,
There si an interesting table inside this article with
"phonetic similarities and differences"

Could you add 3 additional columns for "Dacian" , "Thracian"
and "Albanian" in this table...and save this table in the "file"
section...for later updates...

Doing this we can than check next the consistence of "Latin-

>Romanian" transformations...

Thanks and Best Regards,
marius a.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> the text I quoted comes from
> http://www.ship.edu/~cgboeree/indoeuropean.html
>
> If one compare Indo-Avestan with BaltoSlavic one has to agree that
the
> IndoAvestan is "more" satem as the BaltoSlavic. The conclusion from
this
> article should be grosso-modo that the centum speakers splited
early up
> and the remained IE people undergone to the satem shift. Since
> BaltoSlavic is not as satem as IndoIranian one could think about the
> posibility of an another group, the satem one who splited
after/before
> the centum group and undergone to the satem shift.
> Questions:
> - which are the evidence of the splitting groups in the timeline?
> - what did happen whith the "people which reamined" ? Did their
speach
> undergone to the satem shift too or they didin't ( if yes which is
the
> evidence; I am thinking here at the Doric invasion for instance,
> speakers of a centum dialect, but people who seems to left later as
> BaltoSlavic and IndoAvestans the Valey of Danube; more, the Greek
itself
> as centum language has some curiosities where it handles the words
as a
> satem language).
>
> Alex
>
> [Quoted text]
> ---------------------
> cca. 2000 bc.
> The horse-drawn, two-wheeled chariot, with spoked wheels, is
developed
> in the western steppes, and spreads quickly to the Balkans as well
as
> the Middle East.
> A branch of the southern Satem dialect -- Proto-Indo-Iranian --
expands
> from Ukraine and the steppes into Afghanistan, Iran, and
northwestern
> India. One tribe -- the Mittani -- goes as far west as northern
> Mesopotamia.
> The main body of the southern Satem dialect expands into the
Ukraine to
> become the Cimmerians, leaving the Dacians in the original
homeland. I
> suspect that the Dacians were a southern (Cimmerian-like) dialect.
The
> people of Thrace were probably closely related to the Cimmerians,
with a
> southern Satem dialect.
> The main body of the northern Satem dialect -- Proto-Balto-Slavic --
> expands north from Poland into Belarus and the Baltic coast.
> The Celts expand into France and, in a retrograde move, back into
> Hungary. A powerful society, they pressure the original peoples of
> western Europe, as well as their own relations to the east.
> Anatolians (most notably the Hittites) establish themselves in Asia
> Minor, where they become a major power. Their languages are
profoundly
> affected by neighboring non-IE languages.
> A second wave of Hellenics (Doric Greeks) moves into Greece from
> Macedonia.
> --------------------