Re: [tied] anomaly

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 26696
Date: 2003-10-29

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:39:30 +0100, alex <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

>Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
>
>> Pronouns (including the article) show more distinctions:
>>
>> masc. fem.
>> NA -l(u) or -le < illu(m), ille -a < illa(m)
>> GD -lui < *illui -i < *illaei
>
>> NA -i < illi -le < illae
>> GD -lor < illo:ru(m) > -lor
>>
>> Similarly acest, acestui; aceSti, acestor; aceastã, acestei; aceste,
>> acestor etc. and the indefinite article un, unui; o, unei; unor.
>
>I guess here can be the mistake where I am in doubt about. I must
>honestly admit that I am stil searching for an answer in the forming of
>genitive here. I am not sure, I repeat, I am not sure if for making the
>genitive is the "-lui" and "-i" you mention here.

The feminine should be -ei (Old Romanian capre-ei, Aromanian capre-l^ei).

>The problem - in my eyes- are the undeterminated pronouns, but the
>demonstrative pronouns as well because there cannot be anything to say
>"similar" about; these with genitive in "-or" seems strange versus
>"-lor".
>
>NA un NA una NA unii NA unele
>GD unui GD unei GD unor GD unor
>
>NA acest NA aceasta NA aceSti NA acestea
>GD acestui GD acestei GD acestor GD acestor

I don't understand what you don't understand. The endings are exactly the
same:

(e)ll-u un-u est-u
(e)ll-ui un-ui est-ui
(e)ll-i est-i
(e)ll-oru un-oru est-oru

(e)ll-a un-a est-a
(e)ll-ei un-ei est-ei
(e)ll-e est-e
(e)ll-oru un-oru est-oru

From Latin:

illum unum/unus istum
*illui *unui *istui
illi isti
illorum unorum istorum

illa(m) una(m) ista(m)
*illaei *unaei *istaei
illae istae


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