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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Egijus <segijus@...> wrote:
>
> You may think what you like, but where's the evidence? I don't
know of a
> single attestation of "gardas" in the limited corpus of Thracian
words
> available to us. We have the etymologisable toponymic
>
> Hello,
>
> Romanians have GARD, Albanians have GARDH, Gots have GARDS,
Lithuanians have GARDAS, but Slavs have GRAD. So, I think, that GARD
can't be loan from Slavic. Also, was Gothic language popular much
enough to inflect Romanian, Albanian, Baltic and Slavic languages?
For a through discussion of this word, see the thread including
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/24502 . For the
feasibility of the Proto-Slavic form being the ancestor of some of
the other forms, see for example
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/16456 .
> language. Please show us how the Germanic languages can be derived
from it.
Not sure what you mean. Although Gothic is the earliest recording
Germanic language, it is not ancestral to the other Germanic
languages.
> I'm not sure that Old Prussian language was Proto Germanic
language. But I have read articles, which suggests that Proto
Germanic language belonged to Satem group of languages and had cases.
All families of Indo-European languages show at least traces of
cases. Germanic languages do have a lot in common with Balto-
Slavonic languages, but that may just come from long being
neighbours.
> Also, words HAILAZ and HELMAZ were been presented as Proto
Germanic words. Word HAILAZ means HELLO.
Try 'whole, healthy' for the meaning.
> Prussians have KAILAS for HELLO. Word HELMAZ means HELMET.
Prussians have SALMAS for HELMET. Also, words STIKLS and GARDS were
been written here as Gothic words. There are Baltic words STIKLAS
and GARDAS with same meaning as Gothic ones. Also, Baltic word
PLUGAS is in Germanic languages too. It means PLOUGH. Germanic and
Prussian tribes were neighbours in ancient times. I'm wondering what
are opinions of other members about relations between Old Prussian
language and Proto Germanic language?
Old Prussian is a Baltic language. That does not preclude mutual
influence.
Richard.