Re: [tied] Glen, regarding...

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, João Simões Lopes Filho
<josimo70@...> wrote:

> Eh eh, this is a circular definition: Latino is everyone who
> consider themselves as Latino. Would it include Brazilians? The
> definition states that is aplicable to Spanish-language countries,
> which would automatically exclude Brazilians, but if a Brazilian
> consider himself as a Latino it will be a Latino. By this circular
> definition , if Swedes identify themselves as Latinos, they will
> be Latinos. Amazing.

Not if they aren't L1 Spanish speakers.
This is how the people who call themselves Latino view it. The rest
of us in the USA use the term "Latino" only out of politeness -- we
know it's nonsense. Hispanics aren't very "race" conscious, but they
_do_ place great importance on << la raza >>.

IKP

> Joao SL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian M. Scott
> To: Patrick C. Ryan
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re[2]: [tied] Glen, regarding...
>
>
> At 10:09:23 PM on Wednesday, October 8, 2003, Patrick C.
> Ryan wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Miguel Carrasquer" <mcv@...>
>
> >> Define "Latino".
>
> > <PCR> In the politically correct USA, Latino is the
> > favored term to designate Mexican Amerindians, who speak
> > Spanish (even as a second language).
>
> > It is sometimes extended to Amerindians from other
> > countries who speak Spanish.
>
> This is wildly inaccurate. Here's what the U.S. Census
> Bureau says:
>
> Hispanics or Latinos are those people who classified
> themselves in one of the specific Spanish, Hispanic, or
> Latino categories listed on the Census 2000 questionnaire
> -"Mexican, Mexican Am., Chicano," "Puerto Rican", or
> "Cuban" -as well as those who indicate that they are
> "other Spanish/Hispanic/Latino." Persons who indicated
> that they are "other Spanish/Hispanic/Latino" include
> those whose origins are from Spain, the Spanish-speaking
> countries of Central or South America, the Dominican
> Republic or people identifying themselves generally as
> Spanish, Spanish-American, Hispanic, Hispano, Latino, and
> so on.
>
> Everyday usage varies but certainly does not restrict the
> term to Mexican Americans; the traditional term for them is
> <Chicano, -a>.
>
> Brian